Monday, October 27, 2008

Rep. Gwen Moore, Marquette’s Pet Pro-Abortion Extremist

Barack Obama is on record with a very extreme pro-abortion position, supporting the Freedom of Choice Act. This isn’t just a pro-abortion piece of legislation. It’s an “everything we abortion advocates have ever wanted imposed everywhere in the country by the U.S. Congress” Act.

According to Pro-Life Wisconsin:
FOCA would eliminate laws on informed consent, parental consent, abortion clinic regulations, conscience protection laws, government programs that fund and promote childbirth without funding abortion, laws prohibiting certain abortion procedures (e.g., partial birth abortion), laws requiring that abortions only be performed by licensed physicians, etc.
But of course we expect the most liberal person in the U.S. Senate to be rabidly pro-abortion.

Who else supports the Freedom of Choice Act? Marquette’s own alumna and the Congresswoman who represents the district in which the university resides: Gwen Moore.

This is part of a consistent pattern of pro-abortion voting by Moore.

What is more striking is that Moore has been rather the pet of Marquette University, having won the Helen Way Klingler College of Arts and Sciences Distinguished Alumna Award, and getting a lavish reception at Marquette’s Les Aspin Center when she was sworn in as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Marquette’s fondness for Moore is hard to interpret in a favorable light. The most obvious conclusion is that Marquette simply doesn’t care about Catholic Social Teaching about abortion. This may well be the case, given the liberal bias of the administration all the way up to and including Father Wild.

The other is that Marquette is pandering to Moore because she is in Congress and has a bit of political power. So are Marquette administrators utter hypocrites claiming to have any sort of loyalty to Catholic teaching, or are they whores pandering to political power?

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22 Comments:

Anonymous boots said...

hahaha you are hilarious. Keep the crazy coming (As if I'm not already given enough through election coverage of McCain/Palin!)

To answer your last question, Marquette administrators are all just whores pandering to political power. Duh. They are an institution. They pander to everyone. The Vag Mons would be on campus if Marquette didn't pander to rich conservative donors. Duh x 2. What exactly are you complaining about, again?

7:52 PM  
Blogger mustudent said...

Hard to say which one, but I think it is the pro-abortion stance that most of the administration takes, because I've heard that Father Wild has mainly encouraged liberal groups to come to Marquette; however, I don't know if that reflects more on him or on the liberalism of the student population at Marquette.

8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd say that becoming a member of congress makes for some distinction, don't you?

8:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've heard this kind of silliness spewed by a couple GOP3 writers with regard to Moore receiving the award you mentioned. To say that Marquette should not award or support someone that holds a different moral view is beyond silly. It's intolerant. Moore's support of women's rights doesn't make her any less distinguished, or any less of a graduate of Marquette than those who do not support a woman's right to choose. Going by your standard Mr. McAdams, Marquette shouldn't even admit students whose beliefs dont align with those of the Catholic church (i.e. the Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Mormons, Athiests, and even the Catholics who support women's rights... groups that make up sizeable portion of the population ar Marquette).

I agree that Marquette does pander to political power, like all universities do. We pander to conservative political power far more than we do liberal political power. However to suggest the sort of disowning of Moore that you seem to be suggesting is pure intolerance. Nothing more, nothing less.

10:25 AM  
Blogger O.L. Dupree said...

Why be so binary about this? Your question reflects too "bland-and-white a view of the world. You suggest that MU's administration is either pro-choice or cravenly ingratiating itself to political power. Why either/or when there is so much evidence for both/and?

1:53 PM  
Anonymous Jess said...

Given the fact that every time you post it's to complain about Marquette's liberal lean (which, let's not forget, reality has a liberal bias), I wonder why you don't pull a Chris Wolfe and LEAVE. Clearly you don't have enough of a problem with Marquette's decisions to seek out a more suitable institution for your beliefs (I'm sure they're hiring at Liberty University or Wheaton College). Do you do this just because you have to be complaining all the time, or do you seriously think that anything you complain about on this blog is going to change anything? Seriously, if the archdiocese can't change the decisions Marquette makes, what makes you think you can?

4:13 PM  
Blogger John McAdams said...

To say that Marquette should not award or support someone that holds a different moral view is beyond silly. It's intolerant.

Then how about giving an award to a Klansman?

Is not doing that "intolerant?"

Look . . . it's obvious where you are coming from. You don't much mind abortion, therefore you don't mind Marquette honoring Gwen Moore.

If Marquette honored somebody you really didn't like, you would be livid.

7:14 PM  
Blogger John McAdams said...

I wonder why you don't pull a Chris Wolfe and LEAVE.

You would like that, wouldn't you?

You just aren't happy with diverse opinions being voiced, are you?

But you're part of the "diversity" crowd, aren't you?

I'm guessing that, like most of the diversity crowd, you don't want any diversity of opinion.

7:16 PM  
Anonymous MU alum said...

Jess-

Students benefit from a diversity of opinions amongst their professors. During my time at Marquette, I appreciated having professors like Dr. McAdams and Dobbs, along with professors like Father Massingale. While perhaps the anti-intellectualism that seems to be so popular amongst many republicans has aided in some of the existing disparity, college campuses should be places of rich and diverse viewpoints and robust discussion. I took a few classes with Professor McAdams, and he supervised my internship with a Democratic campaign. While our belief systems diverge, I benefited from looking critically at both sides. I want future Marquette students to be in an environment where they are exposed to diverse viewpoints. It would be a loss if only liberal professors remained at Marquette.

11:27 PM  
Anonymous gus said...

btw Anon.
Gwen more puts the "stink" in distinction.
Maybe Marquette can honour Tom Foley then Tim Mahoney next??
Both were very "distinct" in their Congressional careers.
N'est ce pas??

11:38 PM  
Blogger Patty said...

Last I checked Marquette was still a Catholic institution. Abortion is morally wrong according to the Catholic Church. It is not only that she "holds a different moral view" but that she uses this view to vote for pro-abortion legislation and aganist pro-life Bills as a member of Congress. In choosing to honor her they are ignoring this important fact.
It is not intolerant to not honor someone who holds and acts on views in opposition to the church that the University is part of.
The only tolerance that the liberal crowd wants is tolerance for their views.

1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do Marquette professors insist on using the title "Dr."? Is it because the percentage of professors holding the "terminal degree" is so low that it's a mark of distinction on campus? I am not aware that this title is used at all on the state's top campus, in the city where even cab drivers have PhD's. Just curious...

8:30 AM  
Anonymous Dash said...

Patty, QUESTION: So I am a student at MU. Should I not be honored for my work in peer education on campus, or for receiving the Dean's Scholar Award in academics strictly because I support a woman's right to choose?

Pray, do tell: how is me being honored in this way any different than honoring Rep. Gwen Moore as a distinguished alumni of this fine institution.

I am eagerly awaiting your response. Anyone else, please feel free to chime in. I'm really wondering what ya'll think. Should I be banned from receiving any awards at Marquette because I am pro-choice?

3:57 PM  
Blogger John McAdams said...

So I am a student at MU. Should I not be honored for my work in peer education on campus, or for receiving the Dean's Scholar Award in academics strictly because I support a woman's right to choose?

It depends on what the stated criteria are. Isn't the "Dean's Scholar Award" for getting good grades? If so, good for you.

But awards like Moore got are supposedly based on the totality of public service. Her taking extreme pro-abortions positions is an element of her "public service."

For anybody who looks at it from a Catholic perspective (which Marquette is supposed to do, regardless of whether you agree or not) this taints her public service.

In short, your pro-abortion position has nothing to do with your good work in peer education. But it's an important part of the career of Gwen Moore.

10:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok so Mr. McAdams, simply dash's question. We give out awards and money to students at Marquette based on their service. In fact, the Ignatius scholarship is service based. Patty said it's wrong to give Moore awards because she uses [her] view to vote for pro-abortion legislation and aganist pro-life Bills as a member of Congress. Consider Marquette stidents who use their views to work diligently for pro-choice organizations and push a pro-choice agenda. Should they not be considered for service scholarships and awards at Marquette simply by virtue of the fact that they hold different views and work to advance them. What if their work has produced some universal good, such as reducing the number of pregnancies as a whole.

Assuming the admission's officer is in light with Marquette's Catholic perspective, that student who put in hundreds of pro-choiced based service hours as a senior in high school shouldn't even be admitted right?

9:55 AM  
Blogger John McAdams said...

Consider Marquette stidents who use their views to work diligently for pro-choice organizations and push a pro-choice agenda. Should they not be considered for service scholarships and awards at Marquette simply by virtue of the fact that they hold different views and work to advance them.

No, Marquette should not give awards for pro-abortion activism. Marquette has no business endorsing pro-abortion activism.

In some contexts a pro-abortion student might be rewarded for certain things. For example, a well-written pro-abortion paper in a philosophy class should get the same grade as an equally well-written anti-abortion paper.

The reason being that the quality of the paper is what matters.

Sometimes, giving an award is unavoidably an endorsement of what the person has done. Why would any university have given an award to Martin Luther King unless they approved the cause he led?

Should Marquette ever give an award to an outspoken racist?

9:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So I'm interesting in knowing your thoughts (and Patty's) on whether we should grant admission to Marquette for pro-choice students.

12:12 AM  
Blogger Patty said...

You are interesting in my opinion?
Since there is no place on the Marquette application that states what are your views on abortion I would say that it is a ridiculous question.
As far as Ignatious awards (which are not all service awards) I believe no pro abortion activist should receive a service scholarship. Just as I would say the same of someone who was a member of the KKK.
The distinction between giving an award for grades (the Dean's list) and honoring Moore is that Moore is using her views in her capacity as a Congresswoman. MU chose to honor her. There is a difference.

8:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please excuse my typo. Patty of course there is no place on the application where you state your views on abortion. There is tons of space, however, to mention the activities you participated in. A friend of mine worked for NARAL Pro-Choice America for her junior and senior years in high school and certainly mentioned it on her application for admissions.

She used her view to promote a pro-choice agenda.

My question is should the admissions counselors, who are certainly in tune with the the fact that Marquette is a Catholic, Jesuit institution (and who certainly realize the stance of the Catholic church on abortion), have denied her admission to Marquette?

6:47 PM  
Blogger John McAdams said...

My question is should the admissions counselors . . . have denied her admission to Marquette?

Apples and oranges.

Gwen Moore was given an honor by Marquette. Just getting admitted doesn't confer any particular honor. It doesn't mean you are a moral person.

Marquette chooses not to even ask that question when they decide admissions.

Nobody has answered my question as to whether Marquette should honor a Klansman.

It's obvious why you folks haven't. You don't see anything wrong with abortion. If you did, you would view Moore differently.

10:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Marquette should admit students who are pro-choice, allow them to lead regular students lives, not give them service-based scholarships (according to Patty), and not honor them when they've graduated (if they've fought for women's rights). Are we beginning to see how silly this sounds?

The fact of the matter is that Gwen Moore was honored because she's a good public servant who happened to graduate from MU. I disagree with just about everything she says, including her views on abortion, but I'm not so shallow that I don't realize that she's positively helped the 4th CD. It's absolutely preposterous to say that we won't honor any of your service because you disagree with us on the issue of abortion. That's saying we're right and you dont get an opinion (read: intolerant); rather we should do as we've done and say we honor your public service even though we may fundamentally disagree on certain issues.

To answer your question, Mr. McAdams, if you can find a Klansman who has a record of public service that's similar to Moore's then yes, we should honor them. Maybe Robert Byrd, but he's a former Klansman. I think you'd be hard pressed to find one. I'll wait...

10:56 AM  
Blogger Patty said...

So anonymous, you would be in support of honoring a KKK member. Very easy to say anonymously on a blog versus having a major Catholic institution of higher learning publically do it. And I am sure there would be no protests or outraged cries from anyone (sarcasm on).
MU should honor neither the KKK member nor the pro-abortion activist/legislator. Both go against Catholic teachings. The problem is inidviduals are accepting pro-abortion as an acceptable position, while MU is a Catholic institution and Catholic teaching on this is very clear.
Also, I live in the 4th CD. Please tell me how she has positively helped my district.
She is a below average legistlator in my opinion, please show me something of extraordinary consequence that she has done.
Also, once again her pro-abortion votes are PART of her public service and can't be ignored.

9:08 AM  

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